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    Post  Timothy T on Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:44 am

    Dad's gun jammed today and he fixed it.

    And I've noticed something. It is very easy to make a gun full auto again. Is there any way to semi a gearbox so it cannot be changed back?


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    Post  Mikey on Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:17 am

    Nope. Anything one man can do another can undo and vice-versa.
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    Post  Timothy T on Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:56 am

    I figured that. The only real way would be to make your own gearbox.


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    Post  Elle_Brock on Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:14 am

    That would proberly be the only way but yet if you made your own you could proberly make it fully auto again. I jsut wish they let fully auto airsoft guns into the country.
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    Post  Mikey on Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:54 am

    It just comes down to honesty and fairness. Personally i think semi-auto makes for a good playing field, full auto would just make it a hardware spam fest, and i'd happily be the first with a backpack minigun, 10,000 round capacity. A good game might have room for specific full-auto weapons for some scenarios, eg a defensive SAW but thats just a dream atm anyway.

    The same hold true for real guns too, any semi-auto can be made full-auto with enough effort, and you dont even necessarily need to start with a semi - check out the charlton for an example of a bolt action rifle conversion.
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    Post  Timothy T on Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:20 am

    Oh ok.

    I definatley think that semi-ing of the weapons has actually been benefical to airsoft gameplay rather than otherwise.

    But wow, a bolt action gun? Pretty cool.


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    Post  Black Knight on Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:24 pm

    yup
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    Post  Elle_Brock on Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:37 pm

    YEah same I can put my gun into fully auto very easy. But dont get any ideas anyone cause in NZ fully auto is Illiagle unless you have an E can firearms license. Besides fully auto does wreak the game means alot more spamming like loads more and takes alot of he point out of it.
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    Post  Mikey on Wed Nov 25, 2009 4:40 am

    Full auto requires a C cat license, not E cat, and the catch-22 situation is that items on a C endorsement are not to be fired.
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    Post  Timothy T on Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:10 am

    Isn't E-cat the one that to own semi-rifles that have pistol grips. Pretty much means assault type weapons but the new zealand authorities wanted to make up their own name instead of using the name that nearly every other country in the world uses.


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    Post  Mikey on Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:38 am

    Its rather correct and sensible.

    E-cat is created to cover 'Military Style Semi Automatic' rifles, which are defined it by functionality, although the intent is to cover looks as well. To define semi auto military style rifles it catches pistol grips, bayonet lugs and hicap mags.
    An assault rifle is by definition fully automatic, and are mostly not permitted for civilian ownership around the globe. Therefore an assault rifle cannot be E-cat. There are E-cat rifles that looklike assualt rifles, notably the chinese 'AK' style guns.

    The anti-ownership brigade have gone to great lengths to have anything that resembles a military weapon branded as 'assault', largely because words like assault sound intimidating and unhealthy. Its really just media spin doctoring. So most of the bills and legislation covering MSSA's have titles like the 'assault weapons ban' in the USA, which covers rifles that 'look like one of the guns on this list we made up'. And an assualt weapons ban sounds like a good idea, particularly to people who have no idea what it actually does.

    A genuine assault rifle in NZ is C-cat, which is the uncommon collectors license, which permits possession of fully automatic firearms. C-cat items must be kept inoperable, and are strictly for museam/private collectors/film makers/re-enactors. A full-auto airsoft gun can be kept on this license, but it serves no purpose, so really its a rather neat step the police have taken to prohibit the import of F/A airsoft guns without needing to make any laws.
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    Post  Elle_Brock on Wed Nov 25, 2009 6:40 pm

    bugger go the two mixed up ah well.
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    Post  Timothy T on Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:12 am

    I was meaning how in America and pretty much everywhere else they just call them assualt weapons. Whereas we have MSSAs.


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    Post  Mikey on Thu Nov 26, 2009 5:06 am

    I understand. Gun owners, dealers and manufacturers in the states use the term MSSA as well, the trerm assault rifle is the choice of the Media and politicians. Dont even think for a moment the media are neutral in any debate on gun ownership,
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    Post  Timothy T on Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:37 am

    Ah, so the term assault rifle is just term used by the media? Oh well, it just seems much easier to say than 'military style semi automatic'.

    Anywya, this thread is slightly off topic so we should leave it be.


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